Sorry, the security guard says. He was 5-0 there when the Blue Jays moved him in May to their Triple A Syracuse farm. Stucco, skylights, kitchen islands, walk-in closets. Become a Stathead & surf this site ad-free. He ended up winning 158 games in the 1980s, which was. "I'd just settled into an apartment in Syracuse after I moved to Triple A when they called me up. "Winning one like that is better than throwing a shutout. background-image:unset; He had an ERA+ of 122 and a FIP of 3.82. "All we did," says Mattick, "was try to give him a changeup and work a little on his control. More at They were very professional at all times", "Quality work, good crew, glad we selected MasterCraft", "I cant think of one thing, the crew that worked on this job was very professional. He's such a high-strung kid, I realized that what he was really doing was criticizing himself. Born in Santa Ana, California, Stieb played varsity baseball at Southern Illinois University[1] as an outfielder. They couldnt do a better job and a 100% warranty, Mastercraft honors their contract", "They are very good and will go the extra mile for you and that counts a lot", "Excellent service. He's continuing apace this year; at week's end he shared the league lead in complete games (four) and strikeouts (43) and led in ERA (1.26), while winning five and losing two for a team in third place. So will Morris, who spent 15 years on the writers ballot and just missed induction through it. If only Stieb gave himself more credit for accomplishing this. [2] Stieb holds career records for Toronto pitchers in wins, games started, shutouts, strikeouts, complete games and a variety of other categories. Or write about sports? He has just enough of it left to present one more altar to the gods and say goodbye.". Next thing I know, I'm at the (minor league) complex with all the young kids and I'm going, 'What have I done?' I'm 40 years old, he said. Baseball doesn't define me now. He'd been pressed into duty earlier in the college season as an emergency pitcher by Southern Illinois Coach Richard (Itchy) Jones. "Mark Newman, our pitching coach then, had watched Dave throw a litle batting practice," Jones says. A mishandled ground ball led to a fifth Yankee run in the sixth. ", "Always showed up on time. He is also correct in his belief that he didnt get enough wins (for most voters) and not playing longer than he did (and being healthy for those seasons) definitely did hurt him. ", Stieb pitched at Triple-A Syracuse in 1998 on his way back to the Blue Jays. "I didn't like his swing," says Mattick. Early in his career, Stieb would also frequently yell at his teammates after errors, for plays that he thought they should have made. [4] Previously, on September 24 and 30, 1988, Stieb had no-hitters broken up with two outs and two strikes in the top of the ninth inning in two consecutive starts. Building under construction. Helpful Nice guys", "I enjoyed having them do my house. He does all the things a winning pitcher needs to do." What it told me was in (the writers) minds, I didn't even do anything worth recognizing.. 293 Dave Stieb Photos and Premium High Res Pictures - Getty Images All Entertainment News Archival Browse 293 dave stieb stock photos and images available, or start a new search to explore more stock photos and images. [11] While this was seen to be generous at the time the contract was signed, by the time the later years of the contract came around this was a bargain, considering that several players were receiving several times the amount per year. By continuing to use our site, you consent to the placement of cookies on your browser and agree to the terms of our Privacy Policy. Most are close to Stieb's agehe turned 59 on July 22, the day after his Vancouver visitand some are considerably older. Shows how smart we were. Total Zone Rating and initial framework for Wins above Replacement calculations provided by Sean Smith. He was asked to be a leader at 21. "Dave Stieb," says the Orioles' designated hitter, Ken Singleton, "is no picnic.". Made by fans in Aotearoa New Zealand. Stieb came to the Instructional League with two pitches, a "heavy" fastball that naturally dropped and a slider developed for him by Newman at Southern Illinois and polished by Toronto's minor league pitching instructor, Bob Humphreys. He is known for being a Baseball Player. ", "The paint crew was neat, courteous, and professional. It sounds stupid, even admitting that.". Well, this is a guy who had never stepped on a pitchers mound in his life until age 20. Didnt forget any part of the job. The job stayed within budget with no cost overruns", "They met their 4-day job estimate. He's also so tight he makes it hard on himself. Stieb has a higher WAR than five modern Hall of Fame starters, or starters who played most of their career after World War II. Do you have a blog? I would recommend your company to anyone who is looking to have a painting job done and wants to work with reliable, competitively prices professionals", "Thank you so much for a job well done - you are experts in all aspects of painting and decorating, and we look forward to working with you in the future", "Our house looks beautiful - excellent craftsmanship. The problem, of course, is that Hall of Fame committees dont generally get too deep into the weeds with sabermetrics. His enthusiasm was scarcely diminished at breakfast the next morning. We decided to draft him. Dave Stieb's struggle is universal, gut wrenching, and inspiring. We were asking an awful lot of him. Showing Editorial results for dave stieb. [10] The contract, including options exercisable by the team, was for a term of eleven years and specified a salary that increased to $1.9 million in 1993, $2 million in 1994, and $2.1 million in 1995. Part 2 just tore my soul apartPart 3 just put it back together, Sprinted out to my backyard see if, like Dave Stieb, I too have spent 20+ years on this Earth without realizing I have a rocket launcher attached to my shoulder. He posted a 1-3 record and 4.83 ERA in 19 games, including three starts. Some high school data is courtesy David McWater. 19. I call it a feel. Southern Illinois University Carbondale (Carbondale, IL). vs. BAL 6.0 IP, 6 H, 5 SO, 2 BB, 5 ER, L, Last Game: TORONTO, ON - CIRCA 1991: Dave Stieb #37 of the Toronto Blue Jays pitches during an Major League Baseball game circa 1991 at Exhibition Stadium in Toronto, Ontario. He had such a desire to excel. Dave Stieb is a building contractor and plays electric guitar. [19], Stieb's older brother, Steve, was a catcher and pitcher in the Atlanta Braves minor league system from 1979 to 1981.[20]. All I had to worry about was myself. Stieb started it with Dunedin in the Class A Florida State League. He may throw as many as 20 changeups in a game. In the next one he'll be a . [2] Stieb was known for flirting with no-hitters, having reached the ninth inning with no hits four times in five years before accomplishing the feat in 1990, throwing the first, and to date only, no-hitter in Blue Jays history. September 25, 1998 Maybe he thought that at this point, hed seen it all. All his life he had resisted becoming a pitcher, and now he was being told by a top baseball man that his best chance, probably his only chance, of playing in the big leagues would be at that unwanted position. ", "Keep doing what you are doing. We didn't find out he could pitch until April 1. They also wanted him to pitch batting practice, so he threw for a few days on flat ground to build up his arm, then decided to try it on a bullpen mound. Question, Comment, Feedback, or Correction? This led to other issues, which ultimately culminated with Stiebs release from the Blue Jays after the 1992 season. A Saluki starter was injured. Mastercraft does a very professional job. . Mobilesite. Great work, timely arrivals", "There was some anxiety that the project did not start on time due to weather, however, it worked out okay even though we were away. That was something else new I had to deal with. Pete and Pat didn't picture Dave as a pitcher. But many who stand in line for an hour inside the stadium remember. After a short stint with the Chicago White Sox and a six-week run with the Kansas City Royals Triple-A club, Stieb went home to his family. "He's always had good stuff. "He didn't want pitching to interfere with his hitting," says Bessa. View David Stieb results including current phone number, address, relatives, background check report, and property record with Whitepages. We will be calling again for more service", "Your team is sensitive to doing the job right and leaving a quality project", "You do excellent work. Search Details, Dave Stieb's Phone #, Address & More A case can be made with sabermetrics that Stieb not Jack Morris was the best. "After working with Stieb for a day or two, Mark told me Dave already had a better breaking ball than any of our starters. I was very pleased with the job", "Great work & friendly, professional staff-Thanks! No one, not even Mattick, his discoverer, expected Stieb to progress with such astonishing alacrity through the Totonto system. "He was angry," Sportsnet's Stephen Brunt wrote last year, recalling his days covering Stieb in the 1980s. I try my damndest now not to let any runs score as the result of an error. Despite all of that, Stieb received seven votes (or 1.4 percent) on his first and only time on the BBWAA ballot in 2006. He goes, 'They use that like crazy now to gauge how good someone really is. He goes, If they looked at that when you were playing, you would have won four Cy Young Awards in a row, Stieb said, noting it would have been 1982 through 1985 when he led for WAR three consecutive years and finished second the fourth. The employees treat you and the property with respect", "You are prompt, fair, courteous & professional", "We appreciate the helpfulness your staff showed throughout the project" "Mastercraft is prompt in fulfilling the promised timetable and got the job done efficiently", "Started on time, finished on time; cleaned works site everyday; attentive to customer concerns truly a pleasure to work with this professional company", "Chris was very helpful and gave us some tips on how to make the painting on the bottom portion quicker", "I have no suggestions- the guys were GREAT!! Why: A few significant hurdlesremain for Stiebs Hall of Fame case. With all the mistakes leading to runs, it's a testing type of circumstance, a challenge." He was 5-2 with a 2.13 earned run average in his month there. How easy you made the project and what a perfect job you did", "Keep doing what you are doing! Thanks for doing a great job. Past history made LaMonte urge Stieb to make peace with Toronto. As weve chronicled here at Call To The Pen in recent weeks, Toronto Blue Jays legend Dave Stieb has been overlooked and underappreciated for decades. . ", "You and your crew are far superior to any other repair people or workers weve had in the past", "You were very professional, very fair in your bid and the house looks excellent", "You did what you said you would do and you did it well, and did it for the price quoted. The companies were formed over a two year period with the most recent being incorporated eleven years ago in October of 2011. LaMonte urged Stieb to fly immediately from California to Toronto and make his peace with a city he had offended in the past with his trade demands. Fans lining up for autographs in Vancouver found a more mellow Stieb than the version they once saw on the mound. Video Film Room Hub Statcast MLB Network MLB Originals Podcasts. IMDb But, says Jones, "the scouts couldn't know when he was going to pitch because we never did." I just didn't even care about baseball while I was on the mend.". That gives him a psychological edge." He's such an outstanding athlete, we all expect him to be older. But they had at least done some pitching along the way. He currently resides in California, United States. But his fierce intensity was also the engine of his success. He has one of the great hidden pitching primes in MLB history. But I was good. Might be my favorite thing Jon Bois has ever done. So it was exciting again, and it was cool to do that at 40 years old. In his rookie year the right-hander tossed 7 complete games and a shutout while splitting his 16 decisions. He was underappreciated when he played as he, arguably, should have won three or even four AL Cy Young Awards while with the Blue Jays in the early- to mid-1980s. You give excellent top service", "Really nice staff - Lisa, Jay, Kyle & Carlos. "It was fun to start all over again and make it the same exact way I did 19 years earlier," he said. Stieb played for the Blue Jays from 1979-92. It's all in what they call the rhythm. Im very happy with the quality of the work and professionalism of John, Colt & Mike", "An absolutely wonderful job quick, clean, professional and amazingly through! Alan Trammell, Lou Whitakerand Dale Murphy will all be newlyeligible. But by traditional measures, the former Toronto Blue Jays ace might have looked far short of a plaque, with sciatica and other ailments chasing Stieb away from the game in his mid-30s and limiting him to 176 wins. The former MLB pitcher lives here. David was a major league pitcher when most of his buddies from school were working in Chevron stations. Hed already done and seen so much. Injuries also played a role in curtailing Stiebs career and preventing him from accumulating more of the counting stats Hall of Fame voters so value. SUMMARY Career WAR 56.4 W 176 L 137 ERA 3.44 G 443 GS 412 SV 3 IP 2895.1 SO 1669 WHIP 1.245 Dave Stieb Overview Very friendly and do quality work", "John's work far exceeded our expectation! Scores from any date in Major League history, Minor, Foreign, College, & Black Baseball, Frequently Asked Questions about MLB and Baseball, Subscribe to Stathead Baseball: Get your first month FREE. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. We have always been pleased with every job and will continue to use your services for any painting needs inside & out", "You exceeded our expectations!! When you look at his peak seasons, Stiebs case gets much stronger. Dave Stieb on Hall of Fame: 'I surely did not deserve to be just wiped off the map', Lou Whitaker on Cooperstown snub: 'I didn't even get daylight', Meet the top seven candidates for the 2018 Hall of Fame class. That wasn't in his personality in the past. Next. I could entertain a bunch of drunks probably. I never had a lesson. JL. Stieb is the subject of the 2022 four-part miniseries Captain Ahab: The Story of Dave Stieb, by Secret Base's Jon Bois and Alex Rubenstein; in addition to discussing his career, it advocates for his induction into the National Baseball Hall of Fame based on his accomplishments.[21]. And the control. Dave Stieb is a building contractor and plays electric guitar. In 1985, Stieb signed with the Blue Jays what was then one of the richest contracts in baseball. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. A few have brought their grandkids. He's got no chance.". You are honest and run a professional business", "Service is outstanding. They see their boy out there pitching and say, 'Oh boy, isn't that great.' A dropped fly ball in the second inning had given the Yankees four unearned runs. Later on in his career he developed his breaking ball repertoire, and he became very effective with a "dead fish" curveball[17] that would break into the dirt as the batter swung. background-color:#ba3434; Everyone including office staff was wonderful", "Very pleased with the painting. ", "We are extremely impressed!!! Stiebs WAR7 (or WAR in his best seven seasons) was 44.5, which is tied for 66th all-time among starters. Dave Stieb Stats, Fantasy & News. Learn more. I was fortunate to have players around me who could deal with all that. Who will be the first unanimous baseball Hall of Famer. "Some guys call it being a hot dog," says Milwaukee Outfielder Charlie Moore. Then he laughs. We are 100% satisfied with the excellent quality of work. I'm going home to Nevada in a few days. Wisdom. He said no. Dave had that feel.". MLB.TV Buy MLB.TV Buy At Bat MLB . HE HAD NOT. So I never got really, really good, but I can play some stuff and do the rhythm and stuff like that. The Jays picked him in the 5th round of the 1978 draft (the second year we were part of the draft) out of Southern Illinois University. The end of Dave Stieb's career was as poetic, fascinating, and shocking as the rest of it. By Wins Above Average, the chasm between Stieb and Morris in the 80s is even wider: 28.1, best in the decade for Stieb; 9.0, 31st-best for Morris. He has the same delivery today as he had then. Dave Stieb's struggle is universal, gut wrenching, and inspiring. They both were clean and polite", "Excellent work from beginning to end. You've made our house look brand new again! . Bois and Rubenstein are the greatest documentary makers, ever. [3] Scouted by Bobby Mattick and Al LaMacchia of the Blue Jays as an outfield prospect in a varsity game, Stieb's performance failed to impress until he was pressed into service as a relief pitcher. You'd have to be a Gandhi to handle some of the pressure Dave's had, and Gandhi couldn't have pitched five shutouts for the Toronto Blue Jays. Stieb has heard, by the way, that some people think Morris was the best pitcher of the 1980s because he had the most wins of the decade at 162. He ended up winning 158 games in the 1980s, which was. Now he makes it a point to recognize great plays. It is just too bad they dont pave driveways, repair roofs, and do landscaping! I have fun with it.". A few years ago, he joined two friends in a construction firm. ", "Was very impressed with how neat the guys were. "Excellent service! Stieb looked at some of Saberhagens other accomplishments. Stieb has other assets. Bois and Rubenstein are the greatest documentary makers, ever. It is evident that the employees take pride in their work", "The crew was on time and completed the job on time they let us know each day when they were leaving for the day", "Thank you for all the extra hard work in preparing our house so it could be painted. I can end it on my own terms. Instead, I watched a ton of baseball and spent the off-seasons reading about baseball. He'll go over to the player and compliment him. You keep the client informed of changes (due to weather) through the entire process", "Dont Quit. Danny is very professional, cordial and does a good job", "Mastercrafts employees are easy to deal with and professional", "Dependable, on time, take pride in their work", "Everything and everyone from start to finish were fabulous. Watch our How-To Videos to Become a Stathead, Subscribe to Stathead and get access to more data than you can imagine. He'd already done and seen so much. "I don't think I even knew how to figure an ERA in those days. Other pitchers, notably Bob Lemon and Bucky Walters, have made effective transitions from positions on the field to the mound, although the switch from pitcher to fielder, as made by the likes of Babe Ruth, Stan Musial and Lefty O'Doul, is more common. Lisa is great! Well Done - 5 STARS!! You promised a quality job and that is what we got. Search Details, 2) Social Media Profiles & More ", "Jesse & CJ went above and beyond expectations. His older brother, Steve, was a catcher in the Atlanta Braves system for three seasons, batting .217 as a professional and never reaching above Double-A ball. The first 10,000 fans will receive a Stieb Bobblehead", "Catching up with Blue Jays legend Dave Stieb about his new life and improbable comeback", "How Much Watching Time Do You Have This Weekend? Dave Stieb didn't become a pitcher until five years ago, but now he's one of the best. The quality of their work was excellent! Dave Stieb's struggle is universal, gut wrenching, and inspiring. Stieb pitched to a 2.78 ERA over 12 games in the minors. The brushback pitch was an integral part of his repertoire to back batters off the plate,[16] and was especially tough on right-handed hitters in this respect. The definition may have changed, but baseball blends more easily into his conversation these days. Wa-Pai-Shone 'Stremmel Gallery' by Mark Mack. Disappointed by what they had seen, they nevertheless decided to stay around long enough to see him throw. We would not hesitate to absolutely recommend this outstanding company for all your painting needs. A few years ago, Stieb toldSporting Newsthat he didnt think he was a Hall of Famer since hedid not win enough games and so forth, but he also thought that he surely did not deserve to be just wiped off the map after the first-year ballot.. In plainer language, he had a temper, one which frequently manifested itself in unseemly displays of petulance on the field. "He was absolutely overpowering. where he ran a construction company and spent much of his time with his family. The Blue Jays voluntarily renegotiated the last three years of his contract to pay him a higher amount in recognition of his years of service. "Of course, in the past, I don't know how I would've reacted to a game like that.". Dave Stieb, Kevin Boland 3.21 24 ratings4 reviews This autobiography of one of baseball's most outstanding and controversial personalities features uncensored views on salaries, agents, pitching, life on the road, and the pressures of winning and losing. Kyle and Chris were not only the hardest workers we have seen, but were also courteous, on-time every day, and took great pride in their workmanship. Stiebs JAWS is 50.4. Only Jack Morris won more games in the 1980s. Use without license or authorization is expressly prohibited. It is just too bad they don't pave . Search address history, phone, age and more. For nearly two hours, Stieb signed autographs and posed for photos in Vancouver. Stieb lacked his old velocity, but his sinker was sinking and his slider was breaking. Theres good news for Stieb, though. "It was hard for me to fathom why they wanted me to be something I wasn't," Stieb says. Data Provided By In and out in 4 days. Sport as a metaphor for life has been a common theme in Bois documentaries, and here it never is contrived. Says Martinez: "He threw a home run pitch to Greg Luzinski in Chicago, and as the ball cleared the fence, Dave threw his hands up in the air and looked at me as if to say, 'How could you call that stupid pitch?' Stieb told Butera he was crazy. "To me, ERA is indicative of who's better," Stieb said. "Maybe," says Oldham, "the outfield saved his arm. As of 2023, Dave Stieb's net worth is $100,000 - $1M. He led the league in shutouts (five), complete games (19) and innings pitched (288). And yet he bounded jubilantly to the mound to face the Yankees in the bottom of the ninth. He considered calling the whole thing off. Their current project will take another two years to finish. I wrote this then: Stieb was a magnificent pitcher, a tragic hero, a lone wolf whose intensity could be as intimidating as his slider, a surly sort who alienated many a writer and some teammates as well He hated to give in to a batter or a writer. Efficient, professional, and timely", "It was nice to know I could trust Jesse with my house and key and not worry about being there. It defined me then, not now.'". Before that, he was one of MLB's best pitchers, and made a triumphant return to the mound in 1998 after a five-year hiatus. 2023 Mastercraft Painting & Decorating, Inc., Rights Reserved. It is difficult to imagine Stieb patiently embracing this experience in his playing days. It was a shocking turnabout, driven by bone chips in his elbow. won three or even four AL Cy Young Awards while with the Blue Jays. It was cold and wet, not a pitcher's night, and because of the shoddy support he'd received, Stieb had already thrown more pitchesnearly 140than he normally does in a complete game. "The biggest thing to look at is the kind of team he was on (the Detroit Tigers) and the kind of team I was on, Stieb said. Dave Stieb's Contact Info, Social Profiles & More. "It was a storybook game," he said. in Santa Ana, CA Pat Hentgen told me years ago, he goes, Man, you know how they're using that WAR a lot, that stat? I go, 'Yeah.' Dave Stieb weighed 185 lbs (83 kg) when playing. He was an awesome pitcher, Stieb said. "When I got out of baseball and I ran into people," he says, "they would always talk about what a great career I had, and they were always amazed that I wasn't outgoing as far as wanting to talk to them about it and say stuff about it. What is Stiebs standard for Cooperstown? ", Jones, however, appealed to Stieb's sense of team spirit. And I don't think that's enough to make it to the Hall of Fame.". Search instead in Creative? Search Details, View Dave's Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, dave****@gmail, View Dave's Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, dave****@yahoo, View Dave's Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, dave****@hotmail, View Dave's Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, dave****@aol, View Dave's Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, dave****@outlook. Especially considering all he'd been through in the big leagues, and the high (and often unrealistic) expectations he placed on himself and his teammates. "He comes at you and has good control," says Lachemann. ", "Your company is friendly, knowledgeable and delivers promises. ", MORE: Meet the top seven candidates for the 2018 Hall of Fame class. There was a rain delay in the fourth inning. [12] Stieb's number 37 was engraved on the pitcher's mound for the game and 10,000 bobbleheads of Stieb were handed out to fans upon entrance.[13][14]. As a service-driven real estate professional, I recognize people who have the same business ethics as I do and totally appreciate them. On the latter part, he is absolutely correct but on the former, he should definitely get some more consideration by the Modern Baseball Era Committee, who has yet to put him on one of their ballots. It's not the big things in life that make you, it's the little things. 2022 Stieb entered the league primarily as a power pitcher,[15] relying on a high, inside fastball to strike batters out. Stieb, who had the second-most wins in the decade at 140, doesnt think the stat should be the decider. To apply for a job with Ward Construction, please send a cover letter together with your C.V. to: Ward@wardconst.com. But Mattick and LaMacchia had their doubts. Every time his team had taken a lead in this long and imperfectly played game, it had found a way to give it back. It's out of my system. The fact is, he has found the one missing ingredient in his still new makeup as a pitcher: peace of mind. He came in hot and left the same way, taking it to the clubhouse and the waiting writers. Stieb's father was a contractor. ", Stieb pitched only 17 innings for the Salukis that season, but providentially Mattick saw two of them, and there followed his recommendation that the Blue Jays draft Stieb as a pitcher. Remember, I'd been an outfielder most of my life, so I'd never had to deal with anyone making an error behind me. The guys also very pleasant and answered all my questions. Phoenix, AZ 85004 He stubbornly persisted in regarding himself as an outfielder in his first season of professional baseball that summer and played center-field most of the time. Whos Dave Stieb? you might be asking. Stieb had a high-strung personality and was known as a fierce competitor on the mound; he was regularly seen having animated conversations with himself during pitches when in difficult situations. Yankees ace pitcher CC Sabathia tied his career wins record with his final win in 2011. The crew was friendly, efficient and knowledgeable. Very efficient & skilled", "They give you an honest appraisal and you are not hit with any up charges from their estimate unless they tell you first". He insists he does not compare himself to the others. I said, 'What are you shaking your head yes for? He is tied with Mike Mussina who, like Stieb, spent his entire career (with the exception of four starts for Stieb) in the American League East. Keep up the excellent work! For Stieb, fun was flying close to the flame. The Jays offered him a shot to return in 1999 and work out of the bullpen. . David Andrew Stieb was born on July 22, 1957, in Santa Ana, California. "I'm not going to say I was great. It's like a beautiful piece of music, played out over one of the longest units of time in any major sport: the career of a dominant baseball player. When he took the ball for his first major league start, Stieb had pitched, counting college baseball, a grand total of 216 innings in his lifetime. "He has a tremendously competitive attitude. 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